S5E10 - JJ Ramberg
This week’s guest is JJ Ramberg, entrepreneur, television host, podcast host, best selling author and mom.
She is the co-founder of Goodpods, a podcast player that is seeking to solve the podcast discovery problem by allowing users to follow friends and influencers. Shows they listen to display in follower’s feeds. The app has been awarded honors by both Fast Company and Inc.
JJ also founded two companies with a charity focus. Goodshop is a coupon site where users can find the best coupons online and choose to have a percentage of their purchase go to a cause or charity. And Dogdog.org is a search engine that donates money to dog shelters every time a visitor searches the site.
JJ became aware of companies giving back (The Body Shop and Ben and Jerry’s) when she was young. Her parents also were always giving back. It became a goal to start a socially responsible company.
Before Goodpods, JJ was a journalist hosting the MSNBC show “Your Business” which focused on the stories of entrepreneurs. She started out studying journalism and then went to business school. Throughout her career she went between working in journalism and startups even founding Goodshop just as she was starting her MSNBC show.
JJ is also the author of two books. It’s Your Business was written with producers from her MSNBC show and contains small business tips learned while making the the show. And, The Startup Club is a book for kids about entrepreneurship.
We also chatted about the impact JJ’s upbringing had on her as wet watched her parents both run their own companies. The ability to take a risk was engrained in her.
Check out the episode for more!
Note from Rabiah (Host):
This is a quick episode. JJ is super focused and it is no wonder why. She is a busy woman! It is impressive that she has built companies while pursuing a journalism career. One career is enough for a lot of people. But, also I loved talking to her for a moment about values and how hers to give back are part of her businesses. I’m also a user of her app and have felt the benefits of using it as it has helped me discover shows. Maybe you’ll listen to this episode on Goodpods!
Rabiah and JJ meet from London and L.A. both stepping away from listening to podcasts on Goodpods to make the episode they’ll later play on Goodpods!
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Mentioned on the episode
Fast Company 10 most innovative social media companies of 2021
Inc magazine Top 100 Female Founders 2020
Kim Kardashian
Transcript
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Rabiah (Host): This is More Than Work, the podcast reminding you that your self worth is made up of more than your job title. Each week, I'll talk to a guest about how they discovered that for themselves. You'll hear about what they did, what they're doing and who they are. I'm your host, Rabiah. I work in IT, perform standup comedy, write, volunteer. and of course podcast. Thank you for listening.
Hey everyone. So this week I have on JJ Ramberg, she is the creator of Goodpods, which is an app I use to listen to podcasts. There's so many out there. I've definitely been an Overcast fan and I really love their UI. And then I've used Apple podcasts, I've used Spotify for podcasts but I usually use it for music. But I've been on Goodpods for a little while.
So I definitely encourage anyone to check it out. If you're interested. It's pretty fun because you can rate each episode and you [00:05:13] can see what other people are listening to. And we talk a little bit about the app, and, a little bit about what else she's done. She was one of the first people to have a podcast on MSNBC, which is pretty cool.
And I really enjoyed talking to her. And one thing that's cool is this month is Women's History month and I'm able to feature women every week. And it's a long month too, if you look at the calendar, but I feel really lucky that there have been really incredible, amazing, powerful women to talk to. And it's important to have every voice.
And I really do make an effort to seek out guests that represent. All different people and all different causes and viewpoints. And it may not be clear all the time that that's what's happening, but that's really one thing I'm trying to do is, is be inclusive. And so if you do have a guest idea and something, an area that I haven't covered, reach out to me at any of my social media or more than work pod at gmail dot com and let me know, and I'll try to get in touch with the person, or if you think you'd make a good guest, let me know.
But I have quite a few good guests coming up. [00:06:13] Uh, it's been fun to just find new people to talk to. People I don't know, I've never met before. And then some people I do know that I finally had the guts to talk to reach out to. But, um, I just want to say also like last week, the episode was with Veronika Didusenko about Ukraine.
I haven't forgotten what's going on there. I haven't really had many moments go by where I'm not thinking about those people. And though this episode is lighter and a lot of them will be. I just want to say that I think it's important that we take care of ourselves when these things are going on, that are affecting us mentally, and that we also try to take care of each other, but the best way we can take care of each others to take care of ourselves first
and so me putting out this episode, doesn't take away from what's going on or the message of last week's episode, and, you know, you going out and having fun or doing things doesn't take away from that. But I think what we can all do is again, just give money to Ukraine. There are many different ways to do that.
And encourage our Congress people senators, [00:07:13] in this case over here, um, MPs like members of parliament, wherever you are, just keep encouraging your government officials to help and to contribute to the people of Ukraine. And if you know people who can take people in do that, if you can take people in and do that, it's hard in some of our countries because people aren't allowed in at this point.
So, uh, we can't really do those kinds of things, but, there's a lot of people helping. And there's a lot of people who are gonna need help ongoing. I just wanted to talk about Ukraine for a moment. Um, a few people I've interviewed lately have said President Zelenskyy is their most inspiring person and he really is, and the people are, and, um, I talked to a friend, who's a Governor in Ukraine and he just said, he's working from a bunker.
He's doing okay. And he does appreciate me reaching out. So if you know people and you haven't known what to say, put away your discomfort. Put away how you might feel a little bit weird or a little bit unsure what to say. Put that away and reach out to them. And this stands for anyone, not just people in Ukraine, but [00:08:13] anyone, if there's somebody you've been meaning to reach out, to do it.
I think it's rewarding, usually, to let someone know you're thinking of them and just to move past that because I've lost a few friends who didn't bother. I don't know why and I bothered with them so many times they didn't bother with me and it's really hurtful, but if you put yourself out there and be vulnerable and just reach out to someone you might hear back.
And they might be really glad they heard from you. And I know my friend in Ukraine's, I told them, I said, I don't know what to say. I know it's useless what I'm saying. He goes, no, it helps to know someone's thinking of me somewhere else in the world. So I'll leave you with that. Um, have a good week whenever you're listening to this or good day or good night.
Good morning. It could be listening to it anytime. I have no idea, but I'm really excited to bring you this episode. Thanks for listening.
Rabiah (Host): Today I have a guest that there's a long list of things behind her name. So it's JJ Ramberg. She's an entrepreneur, television host, podcast host, [00:09:13] best selling author and mom. And I'm going to talk to her a lot about the way I met her, which is through Goodpods.
It's an app that's really changing how people listen to and interact with podcasts. I'm on there. I use it to listen and I use it to promote. So anyway, JJ, thanks for being on More Than Work.
JJ Ramberg: Thank you for inviting me.
Rabiah (Host): And um, where am I talking to you from today?
JJ Ramberg: Los Angeles.
Rabiah (Host): Oh, cool. So my old hometown, I'm in London now, but I grew up in LA, so nice.
JJ Ramberg: Oh, you do. Okay. We'll talk about this offline. Now. I want to know where you grew up and where you went to school, but we'll get that
Rabiah (Host): All right. Definitely we'll do that. So I guess the first thing is, cause I mentioned Goodpods and I think one thing, people listen to podcasts everywhere. So can you talk a little bit about what Goodpods is cause that's, that's what you've co-founded most recently?
JJ Ramberg: Sure. Yeah. So Goodpods is a podcast player that you use just like any other podcast player with the added benefit that it is social. So you can follow your friends and influencers [00:10:13] and groups to see what they're listening to. So like as a listener, the use case for me is I'm going out for a run.
And I think what should I listen to? I don't want to go back to the same old podcast. And then I just scroll through my feed. If you picture an Instagram feed and I see what everybody's listening to. So it, it, our, our goal is out there for listeners to solve the discovery problem. And for podcasters to just raise up more voices.
Rabiah (Host): Yeah, and really like, I mean, I'm an independent podcaster and what I'll just tell you, what I appreciate is just that I feel like I'm treated as, in that app anyway, like people can rate me and like my stuff and write reviews of the specific episodes. And for me, that's really helpful because I feel almost like I'm getting benefits that I wouldn't get on other platforms just
as an indie person.
JJ Ramberg: I'm so happy to hear that because we really created this app, you know, wanting to serve everyone, right? And so, and to really kind of even the playing field. And so for podcasts, Whether I listened to This American [00:11:13] Life, or I listen to some under the radar podcast, it in essence gets the same marketing on Goodpods because it goes on to the feed.
And so we see under the radar podcasts go viral all the time as they get passed from friend to friend.
Rabiah (Host): Yeah. Yeah, it's really, it's really cool. And so you actually, for this, we're honored as one of Fast Company's most innovative companies too, correct?
JJ Ramberg: Yeah. That was exciting.
Rabiah (Host): Yeah. So can you talk a little bit about receiving that kind of accolade and recognition?
JJ Ramberg: Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm going to brag for a little bit, if you, okay.
Rabiah (Host): I want you to, that's what I want.
JJ Ramberg: It's so fun, right because you've worked so hard on something and then to get some outside recognition? Cause I mean anyone who started something, a podcast, a company, anything you're just sort of head down and then you're like, oh wait, somebody's noticing. So fast company recognized us as one of their 10 Most Innovative Social Media Companies.
And then Inc magazine recognized me as one of their Female Founders [00:12:13] 100 which was really fun for me. And obviously it's a reflection of our whole team. And then we got celebrities out of, kind of nowhere, like Alyssa Milano tweeted about us. Kim Kardashian tweeted about us, but we didn't pay these people.
And so. It's just, it was just great recognition that we had this idea that discovery was broken and that people want to know what their friends are listening to. And so all of these things just come back to us and saying, Okay, you have the right hypothesis. It's working, people want this. And to your point earlier, the part that really makes us exciting is kind of the love we get from the indie podcast community.
So. It's really exciting.
Rabiah (Host): Yeah. That's that's awesome. And then there is a company that you also co-founded called Goodshop. So can you talk a little bit about that and the timing ?
of how that worked out?
JJ Ramberg: Sure. So Goodshop we've had, oh gosh, you know, well, over a decade now. Goodshop is a coupon site. So you find the best coupons [00:13:13] online and a percentage of what you spend can go to your favorite cause if you want it to. So we've through that donated millions of dollars to causes. And we also have another company called Dog Dog dot org (dogdog.org), which I really love for any dog lovers that you have.
It's a search engine. It's Yahoo search engine, basically where every time you search money goes is donated to dog shelters. So there's a lot going on over here, but,
Rabiah (Host): Yeah, no, there is.
JJ Ramberg: Yeah, But Goodpods has been, been really fun. And to just be a part of this. You know, the podcast industry has grown so tremendously over the past few years and to get to be a part of this industry and meet so many people in it has been great.
Rabiah (Host): I can imagine and just really kind of bringing, like, helping deliver content to people that might not hear it, which is, which is great.
JJ Ramberg: Well, that's, that's the thing.
I was a television anchor and I had a podcast with NBC News [00:14:13] and I just, I felt like when I started my podcast, like here we go again, right? The, the voices with deep pockets, industry connections, those are the ones that are going to be elevated.
And there's so many other great voices out there. And so how do we get those out too? And that was really one of the reasons we started Goodpods. And so again, that's why the appreciation we get from the indie community means so much to us because obviously you can listen to anything on good pods, big podcast, small podcasts, any podcasts, but to be able to help raise voices of people who don't have these, you know, big buckets of marketing dollars means a lot to us.
Rabiah (Host): Yeah. And I guess one thing I've already noticed just in talking to you for about five minutes and hearing about Goodshop, also, and you'll tell me if this is true or not some form of like a value of service or giving back to people even with Goodshop giving money, [00:15:13] donating to charity and stuff.
And so is that one of your core values and is that something you've just had that you grew up with, or that has been instilled in you as you've been more successful or how's that for you? Cause that's a really important one to me?
JJ Ramberg: Yeah, I think I grew up with it. So my, my parents were always involved in giving back to the community in some way. And I just remember I'm probably a bit older than you, but I remember when The Body Shop launched and when Ben and Jerry's was giving back. Those were the two companies when I was a kid that I was aware of on a consumer level of giving back and it really struck me. I remember sort of eating a Ben and Jerry's ice cream and feeling good about it. Buying products from The Body Shop when it first launched and feeling good about it. And I always wanted to do something like that. It was just from then on I just thought at some point in my life, I would like to work in some sort of socially or start some kind of socially responsible company.
Rabiah (Host): And is there a challenge in doing that? I'm just curious, cause I've talked to different [00:16:13] business leaders and I've talked to you about conscious capitalism, which I learned a lot about, cause it was a little less altruistic than I thought when, when I talked to like a purist about it. But are there any challenges in trying to have that as be part of where your profits go or is it just something that you just absorb as a leader and say, this is what we're doing?
JJ Ramberg: Well, I think when you start anything, you just think through what are your values, right? And what matters to me, and then you bake those into the company. So again, for Goodpods our mission is helping listeners find new podcasts. Helping podcasts, find new audiences. And helping to raise up voices.
So in doing that, it was kind of a north star for, okay, how do we help these under heard voices and get heard? And so we're able to build products around it. That said for Goodpods, for Good Shop for DogDog, we have to provide the best service, right? So I have to know what listeners [00:17:13] enjoy on Goodpods or what consumers want to buy on a Goodshop, et cetera.
I have to provide the best service out there or else the mission is over.
Rabiah (Host): That makes sense. Yeah. So you still have to provide the quality. You can't just have the mission and think that's just going to drive everything. It has to be both.
JJ Ramberg: Exactly.
Rabiah (Host): Can we talk a little bit about your career on MSNBC and what you were doing because you were covering entrepreneurs there basically in their stories.
JJ Ramberg: I was. So I spent, you know, again, over a decade hosting a show called Your Business on MSNBC, which is all about founders and growing businesses and entrepreneurs and best practices.
Rabiah (Host): And what was your interest in that subject? Is it something that you fell into or is it something that you were always interested in or where you were an entrepreneur that got into journalism? How did that path work?
I was a journalist after college and then went to business school and then worked for startup and then went back to journalism. So I kind of flip flop between [00:18:13] startups and journalism throughout my career. And then my brother was my co-founder and I started Goodshop. It was called Goodsearch at the time.
So I left CNN, I started Goodsearch and then MSNBC called me and said, we're launching a show. It's just going to be six months. Will you be the host? And of course, I'm not going to that down as offered to be the MSNBC. And so I said, yes, And I had just started my company thinking, okay, this is going to be six months and I'll go back full-time to my company.
And it turns out that that show lasted for over a decade. So it wasn't my intention, but I ended up doing the show on entrepreneurship the whole time while I was building my other company. So I, I had an interest in it. But I had even more of an interest in it because it turns out that I was the audience.
I was the host and I was the audience.
That's that's great. And it's, it's crazy ended up lasting that long. And at that point you had a podcast as well. When did the deer podcasts [00:19:13] start
JJ Ramberg: Oh, gosh, I don't even remember the years anymore, but early. I mean, I think we were, we were one of the very first podcasts at NBC News. We work like, you know, we were scrambling for, for for recording space and trying to figure out how to make it all happen. Now there's a whole division that makes it all happen for you.
But I remember my producer just saying you haven't even know where to record this.
Rabiah (Host): Yeah. Like having a podcast when people were still asking what a podcast was really, right?
JJ Ramberg: Exactly.
Rabiah (Host): Yeah. Yeah. My first one was back then with some friends and people just thought it was cool. Like we got to talk to really amazing people we would have never had access to just because they were excited to be on a podcast.
They had never done it and now everyone's know used to them. So it's a little different. So when you were looking at that time in your life though, and kind of oscillating between being in startups and being in journalism and then starting your own company, at what point did you face a decision on choosing a path and getting out of journalism, for example?
JJ Ramberg: [00:20:13] Well, I didn't have that. I mean, I was able luckily to get it all done because I had great teams and everything that I was doing. And then we had just sort of come up with the idea for Goodpods. I was just starting thinking about it and then the show ended after I think it was 12 years at MSNBC.
So at that point I had to think, Okay, what do I want to do with my time? And I thought, I'm, I'm going into Goodpods, full time.
Rabiah (Host): Okay. So you just kind of decided that that was the next thing. So one thing I talk to people a lot about on the podcast is just that they define themselves by certain job roles. In something like journalism I know people I've worked with who were on air, especially. They identified it as like, well, I'm an on-air talent and that's who I am. And once that's gone, it's gone and you had a diverse amount of stuff going on, but have you, have you been able to kind of reconcile your identity and the different roles separately and kind of have a life outside of that with being so busy?
JJ Ramberg: [00:21:13] I have. So, I mean, you remember that, that the majority of the time I spent being an anchor host on MSNBC, I also had this job right where I was an entrepreneur. So I think I had both sides of me through the majority of that time. I loved my show. Very much, and I loved the content and I love to interacting with our audience.
But it is, it is pretty fun for me right now to be on the other side where I'm creating a platform for other people's voices instead of having my voice out there all the time. It's just, you know, I did that for a really long time. It's not to say that I wouldn't do it again. I really loved it, but I'm really enjoying being behind the scenes right now.
Rabiah (Host): Yeah. Yeah. And just doing, doing that and having that specific goal, I guess. So one thing too, you've written some books as well. Can you talk a little bit about those?
JJ Ramberg: Sure. Yeah.
I wrote two books, one with two producers on my show, [00:22:13] lisa Everson and Frank Silverstein. And that was kind of a companion to the show. It was small business tips that we had learned from all of the entrepreneurs and small business owners that we had interviewed. So that was called "It's Your Business".
And my . Show is called Your Business. And then a few years after that my sister and a good friend of ours, and I wrote a book called "The Startup Club" which was for kids. So it's a kid's book and it's fiction, and it's a story about entrepreneurs. So these kids who start a business and it's a really, really fun kids book.
Rabiah (Host): Did any part of that book come from almost what you observed in your childhood? Like you had basically you come from a family of business people slash entrepreneurs, right?
JJ Ramberg: I do my mom, my dad, both grandfathers. Did that book come from that. I guess that book came from my life. It also, I had kids that age at the time. So it was sort of, you know, I think teaching entrepreneurship to kids is [00:23:13] incredibly valuable, no matter what they end up doing. Right. Just the. Was the idea behind the book was let's teach these kids something through a fun book.
So we're not hitting them over the head with business lessons, but through it, you kind of learn what's a P and L right. What's marketing. What do you do when you get in a disagreement with your business partner? And so we wanted to teach them some like really, really basic, you know, age appropriate skills that they kind of got without even realizing they were learning them through reading a fun story.
Rabiah (Host): That's really cool because I think that it is important and there are so many people now, at least that I'm seeing, going into jobs where they do have to have like a wide variety of skills. You don't just do one thing. I think there was an idea at some point, like you do one thing and that's it, but that's pretty much out the window for probably the last twenty years.
So. It's good to provide that holistic education to kids through that kind of medium. As far as just thinking about your [00:24:13] upbringing and what you experienced, is there anything you observed your parents do that you apply now? I grew up in a home where my parents owned an auto repair shop.
So it wasn't some huge conglomeration or something, but, you know, I saw them work really hard at certain things that I now realize impacted me. Do you have any of those kinds of lessons you learned from?
JJ Ramberg: Oh, I mean, it's so many, right? We all learn so much from our parents and watching them good and bad. But my parents, yeah, they were both, I would say good for my parents. I had really, really wonderful lucky mom and dad. But they were both very entrepreneurial. They both worked hard. They both concentrated a lot on family.
And so, you know, I got a front row seat watching my dad worked my whole life, right? Really hard. He had a store with his father and then he went off and started his own ventures. And my mom started her company when I was in junior high with my brother. And so I really got a front row seat watching my mom start and grow her company.
So absolutely that had an [00:25:13] impact on me of just thinking half an idea, give it a shot, try it, right? I guess I had some ability to take risk ingrained in me from watching my mom and my dad started their companies.
Rabiah (Host): Yeah, that's pretty cool because it does it kind of let you see that it's possible to do. I think that's what a lot of people have a gap in, like, seeing that it's possible for them to do something cause they didn't see it demonstrated to them before.
JJ Ramberg: yeah. And also that it's going to be tough sometimes, right? Now, you know, so good things happen, hard things happen and you just got to make it through.
Rabiah (Host): Yeah, So as far as Goodpods, that's gonna, that's now the primary thing for you at this time. And do you have anything else you're like trying to incorporate or is it just Goodpods that you're going to focus on and kind of be more myopic for a little while?
JJ Ramberg: I love that. You know, I, I always have a thousand things going on, but we are, we are really focused on [00:26:13] building this community for podcasting, right? Just, just, you know, again, we talk to so many people; podcast, creators, podcast, producers, podcast, hosts, listeners who listen all the time, listeners who listen one time a month and just ask them, do you have a problem discovering podcasts? And how can we fix this? I love listening to podcasts in the same way that I love journalism, which is that you get to go in and out of these different worlds. Right. So if you look at my podcast feed, it's like I listed out something on science and then something on history and then some wellness.
It it's like, you know, it's. It's low barrier to entry, listening and creating and low commitment. So I'm going for a run and in what mood am I, right? And then I search through and see what my friends are listening to. Like right now you'll see if you follow me. I listened to a ton of stuff on crypto because I'm super interested in it.
Right, and climate change, which I'm also really interested in. But everything that I have listened to on my [00:27:13] feet comes from following a friend who has listened to it before, in these words, So it's so fun. It's to me, it's so fun to just see what other people are listening to and being inspired by them.
Rabiah (Host): Yeah. And I like how it's to me what I'm noticing too, it's the positive part of social media where you're not, I mean, I guess unless someone wrote crazy reviews all the time or something, you'd get something negative
overall it's the positive part, you know?
JJ Ramberg: I'm with you. This is, this is, I agree with you. And we said this when we launched too. It's funny that we want to be the positive side of social media, where you're not, there's not a ton of, you know, sort of FOMO or just, you're all, you know, the negative sides of social media come with other things. It's more just like, oh, how was my friend entertained? Or what did they learn today? Or what can I learn that? It's like having the best conversation with my friends. And just getting to know what the background is too. I really love it. [00:28:13]
Rabiah (Host): Yeah, I have one question for you. So say someone's listening right now and they're committed to whatever their podcast player is, right. It could be anything could be Spotify, Apple, Overcast, whatever. What would you say to them that the reason is they should come to Goodpods?
JJ Ramberg: I would say, first of all, why are you committed to your podcast player? My guess is it's not because you love it so much. It's probably because it's just the one you started listening to. And so it's sort of good enough, right? And I would say if you have ever had that problem where you're about to go for a run or get in the car and you think, what podcast should I listen to?
Or if you were to dinner party and your friend said, "Oh my God, I listened to this. It was so amazing." And you get back to your car and you're like, "shoot, what was it?". Or like someone told me to listen to Smartless, but what episode? If you've ever had any of those questions, give good pots of shot because it's your way to [00:29:13] follow your friends and share things with people,
see what they're listening to. I never have that problem anymore ever. And there are also, if you want to go sort of deeper in, you could even join groups.. So like we have like a astrology podcast group where everyone is, you know, really loves astrology podcasts, post things into there, and we have them for everything you name it, there's a group for it on Goodpods.
It's really fun. So, so again, I started out with, why do you love your player? If your answer is, I don't know, it plays podcasts. I promise you, you will get extra on Goodpods because we have everything everyone else has, plus more.
Rabiah (Host): Yeah. Cool. That's great. Well, thank you for sharing all that, because I think it's really exciting just to talk to someone who's so passionate about their product and my thing with product management is always like, what problem are we trying to solve?
And you have that clear, which is great to hear. So I think, I don't know that just excites me.
So do you have any advice or mantra that you'd like to share with people [00:30:13] that is just a general thing that you practice or follow?
JJ Ramberg: Yes, I do many. But, but one thing I talked before, my mom was an entrepreneur and just kind of a. Kick ass lady. I got to say. She was really amazing. And, and when we were younger, she used to always read us The Little Engine That Could, you know, that book where it's like the trains going up the hill?
"I think I can, think I can" and so she just hammered that into our heads when we were younger. I think I can. And I realized as I got older that yes, that is super important but the other part I added to it is I can't do everything, but I need to know how to find the people who can help me. And so, and I'm up in the middle of the night, stressed out about something personal work, whatever it is, if I can't figure it out myself, the way I think of, "I think I can" is "I think I can go out and find help." I don't need to know what myself I need to know and feel confident enough to go ask people [00:31:13] for help.
Rabiah (Host): Yeah. Oh, that's, that's great. I'm sure that's going to resonate with quite a few people.
Rabiah (Host): So I have a set of questions called the Fun Five. I just ask everybody. So we'll just go through those. What's the oldest t-shirt that you have in still wear?
JJ Ramberg: Well, that's a weird question because I actually don't wear t-shirts that often, except for if I'm working out in the end, those are all just, you know, whatever. But my oldest t-shirt I still have is this, Oh, well, it was. This is a painful question for me because I had this t-shirt that said punim facing up to it, which means face, like facing up to your face and tush on the back, which I don't know, someone must've given me when hawasears old and it lived on a stuffed animal that I've had since I was that age. And somehow in the past year, it has disappeared. It's been on this stuffed animal for like a [00:32:13] thousand years and the t-shirt has gone.
Rabiah (Host): Well, I hope maybe this will launch, like someone finding it. That's terrible that it's just gone.
JJ Ramberg: I fear that it became like a rag for cleaning the house.
Rabiah (Host): Yeah, well that, yeah, we were all in home so much we started using everything to do everything. So.
JJ Ramberg: Exactly.
Rabiah (Host): Oh, my gosh. All right. Next one. If every day was really Groundhog's day, like in the movie, what song would you have your alarm clock play every day to wake you up?
JJ Ramberg: Well, I do basically listen, Harmony Hall from Vampire Weekend. I love that song and I listened to it all the time right now. I'm sure that'll change, but it basically is Groundhog Day in my car cause I always played that song.
Rabiah (Host): I get like that with certain people. And then Spotify told me last year who they were, and it was like Colin Hay and Justin Bieber. It was very weird. So I dunno what was Um, Coffee or tea or neither?
JJ Ramberg: Tea.
Rabiah (Host): Tea? [00:33:13] What kind do you like?.
JJ Ramberg: Well sometimes I get a matcha latte from Starbucks, which is basically melted ice cream.
Rabiah (Host): Yeah, it is
JJ Ramberg: During the quarantine that's like, this is good. I can't go to Starbucks. It's time for me to cut this habit. So now I'll drink any tea or I'll drink black tea in the morning, herbal tea in the afternoon. I drink tea all day long.
Rabiah (Host): cool. All right. Can you think of something that just makes you like really laugh and just kind of lose it or laugh so, so hard you cry, like when you think of it or something that happened recently that does that?
JJ Ramberg: I was laughing cause we had to give a toast at a friend's birthday party the other day. And we were, we had to give the couple's toast and I said to, my husband, we should buy those shirts just cause we're the couple giving the toast, saying like stupid and I'm with stupid. I was on the
floor laughing and he was rightly so saying, no, that's not even funny.
Nobody's going to lave at that. [00:34:13] And so we didn't do it. And I think he was, he was right to stop me, but at the time I thought it was hilarious.
Rabiah (Host): Yeah, well, and it's always our own jokes that are the most funny to us too, or not always all of us, but there are certain of us who are like that. I know I've been accused of it too, so I get it. All right. So the last one who inspires you, right now?
JJ Ramberg: Who inspires me? A lot of people inspire me every day, but, but right now I will say I've been watching my husband super close up for two years now working. And ability to just get everything done and still be with our family and care about all the things he cares about has been, obviously I've known this about him for, you know, it's why I married him.
But just seeing it close up really just gives me a brand new appreciation for it.
Rabiah (Host): That's cool. That's good. I mean, because especially the proximity everyone was in for so long, it could have [00:35:13] gone either way with that kind of thing. So
that's really
JJ Ramberg: right now. We're here. I'm on a call. He's still working at, we're both still working at home
Rabiah (Host): I know. Yeah, no, that's tough. And I know. Nothing's audible that he's saying, which is good. So if people, I kind of know, but if you just want to tell people where, if they want to find you and learn more about you and Goodpods, where do you want them to go?
And I'll have show notes as well.
JJ Ramberg: Oh, fantastic. So Goodpods you can download from the app store or the Google play store. And me you can find at Twitter at JJ Ramberg (@jjramberg) or Instagram, or, I mean, you can email me at JJ at Goodpods dot com (jj at goodpods.com). We love feedback. Love, love, love feedback. So anyone who's using Goodpods out there, you can give us feedback through the app. You can give it directly to me, but every feature we launched is because of user feedback.
Rabiah (Host): Awesome. Well, JJ, thanks so much for taking the time to chat. It's really been nice to get to know more about you.
JJ Ramberg: Oh thank you so much for taking the time to ask questions. It's fun to be on the other side of this.
Rabiah (Host): Thanks for listening. You [00:36:13] can learn more about the guests and what was talked about in the show notes. Joe Maffia created the music you're listening to. You can find him on Spotify at Joe M A F F I A. Rob Metke does all the design for which we are so grateful. You can find him online by searching Rob M E T K E.
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